Thursday, August 5, 2010

Rules Debate Rages On

This is a reply to recent comments listed below.

Dave
I really don't think this is about rules, I understand your club has no relationship with your local baseball club and that is a hell of a shame. I can remember when my club was that way and I as the President used to blame baseball, but it wasn't just them it was us too. Just before I retired as club president I think I saw the light and decided no matter what it took I would mend the bridges. Guess what happened, as soon as I gave an inch so did they and after only two or three meetings where everyone dropped their attitude we came to a deal that worked out best for the children, not a deal that fed the egos of the adult administrators. Dave in your clubs case if both partys would get off their asses and think of what is best for the kids instead of who will get to control what, you may start to get some where, yes Dave both partys because you are both to blame. Now to get back to the crux of the matter your distrust in BWA and the current administration of TBAWA. Speaking for TBAWA we have not done a turn a round in our attitude, we simply  have a great working relationship with BWA. We believe strongly in tee-ball being controlled by tee-ball people. What upsets me most is you attitude of distrust of baseball, put aside your club issues and have a look at what BWA and Geoff Hooker have done for tee-ball in the last few years. BWA through Geoff have applied for and received several grants for which tee-ball on its own would not be entitled to apply. These grants have allowed TBAWA to send umpires and coaches up to the North West Champs for the last two years (around $20,000) They have also allowed TBAWA to send the Super Squad to the South West Champs ($5000) They have paid for undershirts for Super Squad. The tee-ball Started packs are heavily subsidised by Geoff and Baseball. These are only a couple of the things they have done, they fund many things that help keep prices down for clubs, I could go on and on. There are many exciting things coming up this season however they have not be officially released as yet and it is not my job too do this. YES those of us who have been around for a long long time may seem to push the barrow for baseball, however I would push the barrow for tiddly winks if they supported our sport in the way that Geoff Hooker and Baseball WA do. Dave just like you I love this sport and I suppose my advantage is that I am on the inside and get to see all these wonderful things they do that don't get talked about, perhaps the problem is that Baseball WA don't ask for recognition.
I do not believe for one minute BWA want to take over TBAWA, you only have to look at the way they have restructure themselves into smaller more manageable groups in recent times.
For me and I believe the rest of the TBAWA executive Tee-Ball is number one but thank goodness for Geoff Hooker and BWA, I only wish Softball would lift their game to the same level

Greg Mount-Bryson
Chief Umpire


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Hi Greg

How long will it be now for all the baseball rules to come back in. Its still fresh in my mind at tbawa meeting on the discussions of removing reference to baseball rules.
I think the association has done a complete backflip over the past several years. One to which i feel is certainly not promoting tee-ball but one they now promotes baseball.

Just as they wanted it many years ago
TBAWA killing off tee-ball.
David

August 3, 2010 10:19 PM


Anonymous said...
David,
I am not sure what club you come from but you certainly seem to have some sort of baseball-phobia.
Our club made the move to expand into baseball as well as tee-ball and we have never looked back. Best thing we ever did. Tee-ball numbers grew as a result.
I think you need to accept that baseball, softball and tee-ball are actually the same sport with a few tweeks to the rules here and there - and embrace it rather than fear it as your post would suggest.
Given how much support Baseball WA has given our club - anything we ask for is never too much trouble - we have no problem in the direction TBAWA is going. In fact we applaud it.

James C.
August 5, 2010 9:45 AM
Anonymous said...

James
Certainly don't have a phobia, just experience with our baseball work especially from our local clubs junior & senior.
Im pleased that your club is having a good result.
I certainty don't fear any of the 3 diamond sports as i do play senior softball. What i fear is likely hood of tee-ball remaining as a separate entity.
TBWA have done a full circle in there belief and statue regarding baseball in the last 2 years. I don't know how long you have been involved with tee-ball or TBAWA as i go back 12 years 10 of them as a TBAWA delegate.
Difficult on a blog to clearly and correctly explain my opinion regarding this.
TBAWA will end up being the tee-ball section for 5-8 yr olds for BWA.

David
August 5, 2010 10:02 PM

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